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Fifth Blade
The Nyan Cat Pirates
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Posted - 2014.12.04 19:53:44 -
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CCP RubberBAND wrote:In summary we can only realistically look at two options here:
- Leave them as is (yes it would be cool to do X or Y, but realistically we cannot)
- Remove them
I hope you realise that the consequence of removing teams and leaving in index costs is that you make medium - large scale industry unprofitable. Your options with industry will now be limited to producing one tormentor and going home or face losing isk. sigh
While i appreciate that the feature wasn't going to be fixed anytime soon (this was the only time since 2003 that industry has had any real improvement). Removing teams (the only way to compensate for index costs) and leaving index costs will leave it more broken than ever. |
Fifth Blade
The Nyan Cat Pirates
Disband.
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Posted - 2014.12.04 22:40:19 -
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I agree with a lot of what oodell pointed out, but to expand on this specific part:
oodell wrote:
If people aren't using the teams, it's their fault for failing to realize the potential. You can get low-mid range teams for very cheap - there are enough of them that anyone should be able to get a benefit.
The two major issues with this are, imo:
- The interface isn't very discoverable and
- Auctions are a pain
Auctions could easily be fixed - literally copy the method used for contracts and provide a watchlist of the teams you have bid on, so that you can track them. The interface discoverability is something that can be fixed over time. This certainly is not a good argument for removing the entire system, which works in a number of interesting ways.
Finally, as no alternative has been mentioned, this would leave an incredibly broken half-system behind which relied on teams existing to function (indexes preventing industry at any non-minimal scale). So you could just remove indexes too, right? Wrong. Lets say you remove both teams and indexes? Then you go back to the old scramble for a Jita POS, with no reason to distribute production throughout the universe. Incredibly broken.
tl;dr
Removing an imperfect system for an entirely broken one is a bad idea.
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Fifth Blade
The Nyan Cat Pirates
Disband.
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Posted - 2014.12.08 22:00:38 -
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Firvain wrote:So isntead of massive profit he got a bit less profit.. So he didnt lose anything he just didnt gain as much...
"In microeconomic theory, the opportunity cost of a choice is the value of the best alternative forgone, in a situation in which a choice needs to be made between several mutually exclusive alternatives given limited resources. Assuming the best choice is made, it is the "cost" incurred by not enjoying the benefit that would be had by taking the second best choice available"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opportunity_cost
What is economics? You can't explain that! |
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